Pope John Paul II: Faith and reason - EWTN

Saving Faith is part of humanity's response to God in the salvation experience. It is as simple as looking to Jesus for salvation (John 3:14-16). Saving faith is both simple and complex. It is as simple as a drowning man reaching for a rope, yet at the same time it sets in motion all the judicial machinery of heaven, in keeping with the ultimate purpose of God. While believing is simple, there are some for whom it is too simple, and they find that difficult. In the Scriptures, the intensity of one's faith is not as important as its object. Often belief in the gospel produces an emotional response (Acts 16:34), although, because individual personalities differ, it is not wise to use emotion as a test of faith. Ultimately, saving faith is called "conversion." An Illustration would be when the Philippian jailer asked, "what must I do to be saved?" (Thus reflecting a spirit of repentance). Paul and Silas responded, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved" (Acts 16:30-31). To be saved a person must trust Christ alone for his salvation.

In it we find many of the greatest people of the Bible and their accomplishments through faith.


"Scientific and Rational" Western Modernity needs to sit up and take notice that such ancient and widespread World Religions as and are all in agreement that "Human Intellect is to be in some ways distrusted" and that "Spiritual Insight is possible, desirable and profoundly important."

Some ~ a brief selection of "Central Spiritual Insights" gleaned from Christian sources closely followed by another brief selection of "Central Spiritual Insights" drawn from "non-Christian" Inter-Faith sources ~ are set out below!


Augustine: Reason and Faith, Philosophy and God | …

The return of faith and reason to laïcité; Régis Debray and 'le fait religieux'.

This makes sense when you understand that salvation is God's work from start to finish. He finishes what he starts. Consider the "Golden Chain" of salvation in Romans 8:29-30. Paul expresses the five links of the chain this way: Foreknown, predestined, called, justified, glorified. The first two concerns God's decision to save those who trust in Christ, the second two refer to God's activity in actually saving those whom he has chosen. The last "glorified" refers to what happens when God's children finally get to heaven. When we stand before the Lord in resurrection bodies, free from sin forever, we will be in a glorified state. But how is it that Paul can express this truth about our future glorification in the past tense? Simply Paul says it in the past tense because it's so certain of fulfillment that it is as if it had already happened.


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In relation to the Faith and Reason Debate then, the inherently contradictory approaches adopted by the protagonists do not readily permit of the attainment of a consensus and also tend to provide reasons for the parties involved to stick to their respective outlooks and to continue to determinedly enter into the unresolved debate.

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Every thing that concerns you concerns me & I should be most unhappy if I thought we did not belong to each other forever…"



All things considered it becomes distinctly possible to suggest that the Faith and Reason debate has long been conducted "at cross-purposes" with Faith upholding what it believes of as being Spiritual Truth, (whilst tending in many cases to regard scientific truth as being of importance but of ultimately lesser significance), and Reason upholding what it perceives of as being Scientific Truth (whilst often having little or no conception that Spiritual Truth could be of value or even exist).

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The "Enlightenment is not Intellectual" specific and "Distrust of the Intellect" specific quotes sourced from persons of faith and the great poets displayed earlier featured contributions by some undoubted, (and ~ in cases ~ largely, or completely, undoubtable), authorities including A Zen Master, Solomon the Wise (often mooted as the principal author of the Book of Proverbs), Jesus' Parable of the Sower, and such celebrated poets as John Dryden, William Shakespeare and William Cowper.

I can go to any church during non-service times and quietly meditate

Eph 4:11-16: "And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love".